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PostPosted: 2007-10-16 19:38:02
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http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1019871 man jailed in antigay row

A CAMPAIGNER against gay rights was locked in a police cell for eight
hours after he refused to be served by a homosexual librarian.

Devout Christian Joe Fairclough, 58, describes homosexuality as a sin
and has protested against adoption rights for gay couples.

Now he has been banned from his local library after telling a gay
employee he wanted to be served by a different member of staff because
he was opposed to same-sex `marriage.

Mr Fairclough, a married father of three, was arrested after making the
remarks and put in police custody before being released without charge.

The incident happened at Leigh Library. The body which runs it on behalf
of Wigan Council has defended its decision to ban Mr Fairclough for
`unacceptable behaviour.

Police say he was arrested for a public order offence when two library
employees complained that his comments caused them alarm and distress.

But after being interviewed, Mr Fairclough was not charged as there was
insufficient evidence to prove that he intended to cause distress.

Trouble flared after a member of staff, who is gay and has been through
a civil partnership ceremony, offered to help Mr Fairclough with an
inquiry.

Mr Fairclough said: I asked him if anyone else could help me, and he
asked why. I pointed towards a ring on his finger and said I didnt
approve of two men being married. He then told me I was barred.

I went back the next day and two members of staff told me to leave
because I had insulted their colleague. I refused. A caretaker came over
and eventually the police came.

A police constable took me into a square outside the library and I gave
him my side of the story, but he did not take notes.

Mr Fairclough, a semi-retired plumber, went to Leigh Police station to
complain about the way he had been treated. But he was arrested after
police received complaints about his behaviour.

He said he was held eight and a half hours. When he was released at
11.30pm the bus station was shut so he had to walk home to Leigh.

He added I am against homosexuality but I dont wish anyone any harm.

The library worker involved said Mr Faircloughs remarks were `very
homophobic.

A spokesman for Wigan Leisure and Culture Trust said: We take a serious
view of verbal abuse, intimidation or violence against any of our staff.

This wasnt an isolated case and our code of conduct has a variety of
sanctions, including banning people from our facilities.

Previously Mr Fairclough had put comments, deemed homophobic, on the
library notice board and staged a protest outside the library against
the adoption rights of gay couples.

A police spokesman said: The library customers behaviour was
unacceptable and was the culmination of a number of incidents involving
this man at the library over the course of a year.


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PostPosted: 2007-10-16 20:00:02
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Steve Greene wrote:
> Devout Christian Joe Fairclough, 58, describes homosexuality as a
> sin and has protested against adoption rights for gay couples.

Doesnt the bible tell us we should be tolerant of others?


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PostPosted: 2007-10-16 15:05:02
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:00:02 +0100, in uk.politics.misc, for Re: Man jailed in
anti-gay row, (not quite so) Fat Sam ,
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>Steve Greene wrote:
>> Devout Christian Joe Fairclough, 58, describes homosexuality as a
>> sin and has protested against adoption rights for gay couples.
>
>Doesnt the bible tell us we should be tolerant of others?
>

That is just soooo sweet. Youre a really biblical guy, eh?

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PostPosted: 2007-10-16 20:06:43
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Surely is muslims are allowed to refuse to serve booze or contraceptives etc
then christians must have the right not to be served by gays.

What you have here is a case of If a gay is offended by words the police
step in, but if aa christian does the same its not allowed.

Steve Greene wrote in message
news:e61ah35kvaeo1r7j9l6jr47tfrelkpqrk2@4ax.com...
> http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1019871 man jailed in antigay
row
>
> A CAMPAIGNER against gay rights was locked in a police cell for eight
> hours after he refused to be served by a homosexual librarian.
>
> Devout Christian Joe Fairclough, 58, describes homosexuality as a sin
> and has protested against adoption rights for gay couples.
>
> Now he has been banned from his local library after telling a gay
> employee he wanted to be served by a different member of staff because
> he was opposed to same-sex `marriage.
>
> Mr Fairclough, a married father of three, was arrested after making the
> remarks and put in police custody before being released without charge.
>
> The incident happened at Leigh Library. The body which runs it on behalf
> of Wigan Council has defended its decision to ban Mr Fairclough for
> `unacceptable behaviour.
>
> Police say he was arrested for a public order offence when two library
> employees complained that his comments caused them alarm and distress.
>
> But after being interviewed, Mr Fairclough was not charged as there was
> insufficient evidence to prove that he intended to cause distress.
>
> Trouble flared after a member of staff, who is gay and has been through
> a civil partnership ceremony, offered to help Mr Fairclough with an
> inquiry.
>
> Mr Fairclough said: I asked him if anyone else could help me, and he
> asked why. I pointed towards a ring on his finger and said I didnt
> approve of two men being married. He then told me I was barred.
>
> I went back the next day and two members of staff told me to leave
> because I had insulted their colleague. I refused. A caretaker came over
> and eventually the police came.
>
> A police constable took me into a square outside the library and I gave
> him my side of the story, but he did not take notes.
>
> Mr Fairclough, a semi-retired plumber, went to Leigh Police station to
> complain about the way he had been treated. But he was arrested after
> police received complaints about his behaviour.
>
> He said he was held eight and a half hours. When he was released at
> 11.30pm the bus station was shut so he had to walk home to Leigh.
>
> He added I am against homosexuality but I dont wish anyone any harm.
>
> The library worker involved said Mr Faircloughs remarks were `very
> homophobic.
>
> A spokesman for Wigan Leisure and Culture Trust said: We take a serious
> view of verbal abuse, intimidation or violence against any of our staff.
>
> This wasnt an isolated case and our code of conduct has a variety of
> sanctions, including banning people from our facilities.
>
> Previously Mr Fairclough had put comments, deemed homophobic, on the
> library notice board and staged a protest outside the library against
> the adoption rights of gay couples.
>
> A police spokesman said: The library customers behaviour was
> unacceptable and was the culmination of a number of incidents involving
> this man at the library over the course of a year.


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PostPosted: 2007-10-16 20:16:24
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FACE wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:00:02 +0100, in uk.politics.misc, for Re: Man
> jailed in anti-gay row, (not quite so) Fat Sam
> , wrote
>
>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>> Devout Christian Joe Fairclough, 58, describes homosexuality as a
>>> sin and has protested against adoption rights for gay couples.
>>
>> Doesnt the bible tell us we should be tolerant of others?
>>
>
> That is just soooo sweet. Youre a really biblical guy, eh?
>
> FACE

No. Definitely not.
Im very anti religion. You entirely missed the sarcasm in my post.


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PostPosted: 2007-10-16 16:10:56
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:16:24 +0100, in uk.politics.misc, for Re: Man jailed in
anti-gay row, (not quite so) Fat Sam ,
wrote

>FACE wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:00:02 +0100, in uk.politics.misc, for Re: Man
>> jailed in anti-gay row, (not quite so) Fat Sam
>> , wrote
>>
>>> Steve Greene wrote:
>>>> Devout Christian Joe Fairclough, 58, describes homosexuality as a
>>>> sin and has protested against adoption rights for gay couples.
>>>
>>> Doesnt the bible tell us we should be tolerant of others?
>>>
>>
>> That is just soooo sweet. Youre a really biblical guy, eh?
>>
>> FACE
>
>No. Definitely not.
>Im very anti religion. You entirely missed the sarcasm in my post.
>

I missed nothing. Your reply was entirely as expected, you are one of those
many in the ranks of leftists who will quote scripture when it suits your
purpose.

Otherwise, you are a champion of hedonism.



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PostPosted: 2007-10-16 20:26:16
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Again another example of what is f**king up or society big time.

The guy rights protesters get all the help and support that they want.
Anyone speaks out differently then they get locked away.

What happened to freedom of speech??? The man has his own opinion, so what.
He is entitled to it.

Our country is going to the dogs because of the politically correct
bullshit. Personally i am sick and tired of it.

Everyperson in this country should have the same rights and freedoms as
everybody else, sexuality, race and religion should NEVER come into it.


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PostPosted: 2007-10-16 21:59:29
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FACE wrote in message
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> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:00:02 +0100, in uk.politics.misc, for Re: Man
> jailed in
> anti-gay row, (not quite so) Fat Sam
> ,
> wrote
>
>>Steve Greene wrote:
>>> Devout Christian Joe Fairclough, 58, describes homosexuality as a
>>> sin and has protested against adoption rights for gay couples.
>>
>>Doesnt the bible tell us we should be tolerant of others?
>>
>
> That is just soooo sweet. Youre a really biblical guy, eh?

No, I think it was in Bible I, that God hated the gays, in Bible II (Son of
God), I think it says all of the first part is pish, this is the real
deal!!!!!! So, I guess it is up to someone who has read it all, without
skipping to the end or missing out all the dull bits, to tell us about this!
Anyone?


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