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PostPosted: 2007-11-07 02:08:20
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/race/story/0,,2206411,00.html

A construction company yesterday denied racially discriminating against
an Asian engineer who was not invited for a job interview, but granted
one when he re-applied using a fictitious Welsh name.

A catchment manager at the Amec Group told an employment tribunal the
reason Qamar Mohammed Maliks alter ego, Rhyddir Aled Lloyd-Hilbert, was
given an interview and Mr Malik was not was because the fake applicant
said he was planning to move to Wales, whereas Mr Malik had a Reading
address on his CV.

Mike Hartwell, who worked for the construction arm of Amec, which has
since been bought by Morgan Est, rejected any notion of racism in the
selection process.

He told the tribunal in Cardiff: The difference with Mr Lloyd-Hilbert
was that he indicated on his CV that he was looking to move to Wales.

Mr Malik, 49, who moved to south Wales with his family more than 30
years ago, claims Amec ignored his CV last November purely because of
his name.

He told the tribunal that an office manager in Treforest, south Wales,
indicated on the phone they could find him work given his experience,
but after the company had looked at his CV he was told they had no
suitable vacancies.

He then composed a similar CV, but for a slightly older man with
inferior qualifications. Mr Lloyd-Hilbert was emailed a job
description for a quality inspector with a maximum salary of Ł33,000,
the tribunal heard.

Mr Malik claimed out of 143 staff at the Treforest premises, only one
was from an ethnic minority background. He said: It tells me that we
are blind to you, you are closed and you never see us.

Mr Hartwell replied: No, my point is that racial origin doesnt matter
to me. We recruit the best person for the job.

The tribunal reserved judgment until a later date.


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PostPosted: 2007-11-07 08:32:25
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In uk.legal on Wed, 7 Nov 2007, Steve Greene
wrote :
>http://www.guardian.co.uk/race/story/0,,2206411,00.html
>
>A construction company yesterday denied racially discriminating against
>an Asian engineer who was not invited for a job interview, but granted
>one when he re-applied using a fictitious Welsh name.

Sounds like a chancer to me.
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Paul Hyett, Cheltenham


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PostPosted: 2007-11-07 12:08:35
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look at the NGs IF you are too stupid to realise its a troll

He is a master of digust (sorry disguise) but always has at least a good
selection of the SAME GROUPS.


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PostPosted: 2007-11-07 12:33:33
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Nothing new here.

On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:08:20 +0000, Steve Greene wrote:

> http://www.guardian.co.uk/race/story/0,,2206411,00.html
>
> A construction company yesterday denied racially discriminating against
> an Asian engineer who was not invited for a job interview, but granted
> one when he re-applied using a fictitious Welsh name.
>
> A catchment manager at the Amec Group told an employment tribunal the
> reason Qamar Mohammed Maliks alter ego, Rhyddir Aled Lloyd-Hilbert, was
> given an interview and Mr Malik was not was because the fake applicant
> said he was planning to move to Wales, whereas Mr Malik had a Reading
> address on his CV.
>
> Mike Hartwell, who worked for the construction arm of Amec, which has
> since been bought by Morgan Est, rejected any notion of racism in the
> selection process.
>
> He told the tribunal in Cardiff: The difference with Mr Lloyd-Hilbert
> was that he indicated on his CV that he was looking to move to Wales.
>
> Mr Malik, 49, who moved to south Wales with his family more than 30
> years ago, claims Amec ignored his CV last November purely because of
> his name.
>
> He told the tribunal that an office manager in Treforest, south Wales,
> indicated on the phone they could find him work given his experience,
> but after the company had looked at his CV he was told they had no
> suitable vacancies.
>
> He then composed a similar CV, but for a slightly older man with
> inferior qualifications. Mr Lloyd-Hilbert was emailed a job
> description for a quality inspector with a maximum salary of Ł33,000,
> the tribunal heard.
>
> Mr Malik claimed out of 143 staff at the Treforest premises, only one
> was from an ethnic minority background. He said: It tells me that we
> are blind to you, you are closed and you never see us.
>
> Mr Hartwell replied: No, my point is that racial origin doesnt matter
> to me. We recruit the best person for the job.
>
> The tribunal reserved judgment until a later date.


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PostPosted: 2007-11-07 12:47:58
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:08:35 +0000, Tommy wrote:

> look at the NGs IF you are too stupid to realise its a troll
>
> He is a master of digust (sorry disguise) but always has at least a good
> selection of the SAME GROUPS.

The story is not a troll. It is a very interesting fact. One that I
empathise with.


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PostPosted: 2007-11-07 12:53:27
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:08:35 GMT, Tommy wrote:

>look at the NGs IF you are too stupid to realise its a troll
>
>He is a master of digust (sorry disguise) but always has at least a good
>selection of the SAME GROUPS.
>

Is the stroy true or not?


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PostPosted: 2007-11-07 15:21:56
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:53:27 +0000, Maria wrote:

> On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 12:08:35 GMT, Tommy wrote:
>
>>look at the NGs IF you are too stupid to realise its a troll
>>
>>He is a master of digust (sorry disguise) but always has at least a good
>>selection of the SAME GROUPS.
>>
>
> Is the stroy true or not?

You have posted to a special newsgroup set up by
the the NuLabour Government to plug the gaps created by
the abysmal failure of the Psychiatric Care in the Community Policy.
which was implemented by the last Tory Government. This
policy was not only continued but also expanded by this
NuLabour Government.

The uk.local hierarchy was devised to provide an outlet for
individuals who would otherwise be spending their days sitting
at home wearing an aluminium foil hat waiting for a full moon
to rise. It was hoped that this would reduce the incidence
of nutters out there howling at the moon and frightening the
shit out of their neighbours. Another of HMGs aims and
objectives was to provide a distraction to take their minds
of the problem of who they were next going to knife to death.
Unfortunately, this group has been taken over by the
articulate lower middle classes who have succeeding in
driving HMGs target audience away. Independent research has
shown that it was the amount and quality of the inane drivel,
called small talk which the middle classes are adept at, which
had the effect of doing their heads in. They left to protect what
was left of their sanity. This has happened to the whole of uk.local.
hierarchy. This newsgroup in particular is a very good example
of another HMG failure

I trust this post will help guide you in your future dealings with this
newsgroup.

Thank you.


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PostPosted: 2007-11-07 18:18:38
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In uk.legal on Wed, 7 Nov 2007, Tommy wrote :

>look at the NGs IF you are too stupid to realise its a troll

Its not really trolling given the stories he refers to are published in
national newspapers.

Shit-stirring, perhaps, but not outright trolling.
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Paul Hyett, Cheltenham


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