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PostPosted: 2003-07-01 19:27:20
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charleswehner@hotmail.com Charles Douglas Wehner wrote:

> Frank Dobson is another who joined the disgusting gang - not knowing
> what he was letting himself in for. So did the Chancellor Gordon
> Brown. War Minister Geoff Hoon is obviously a disgusting member.

Ye gads! I knew this guy was a kook, but by crikey THIS posting
gave me a real hoot!
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PostPosted: 2003-07-02 06:51:33
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As we laughed at the simple ideas expressed in ohc6es2qal4@4ax.com>, we realised vonroach was
serious and so replied thus:
>On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 19:40:35 +0100 (BST), raj@rijhwani.org (Raj Rijhwani)
wrote:
>
>>> 2ND DOUBTER: And they built the railway network.
>>
>>> REBEL: But apart from fresh water, a railway network,
>>> what have the British ever done for us?
>>
>>Im with you so far.
>>
>>> 3RD DOUBTER: Good roads.
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>Actually not entirely true. The vast majority of the modern road network
>>(good being a very subjective term as anyone driving over the mountains
>>between Bombay and Puna will know!) was actually built post-independence.
>
>Er...`railway network and `good roads, you do recognize the difference, dont
>you. It did not say a network of good roads. It sounds as if you may agree
>that the roads built by the British were `good, at least in comparison with
>later ones.
>Actually, I think the signal achievement (and failure) was to set up a
>bureaucratic regime easily adapted to socialism, which, after the British
left,
> ultimately almost destroyed India. India seems to have the resources,
>productive energy, and brain power to be a great capitalist republic, and
still
>maintain its philosophical oddities. Indian immigrants usually get on quite
well
>in the US.



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>PLAY AROUND, what is this? Must be a circus in town, LETS shut the shit
>down WITH these clowns, CAN I GET a witness?

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PostPosted: 2003-07-02 09:37:08
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BrianE wrote in message
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> Charles Douglas Wehner wrote:


> > At Hyde Park he spoke out for peace.
> >
> > Nobody is perfect - but OUR KEN has won our hearts.
>
> Hmm, yours maybe..
>
> B

It was not just Ken Livingstone, but others. Here is a quote about
Yoko Ono:


> > The crowd heard a message from Beatle
> > John Lennons widow Yoko Ono - read by
> > ex-movie star Glenda Jackson - which said:
> > A dream we dream alone is only a dream,
> > but a dream we dream together is reality.
> > Speak up, shout loud and stand for peace.

BIANCA JAGGER was there also. Her speech was equally impassioned.

THANK YOU, BIANCA.

There were many, many more famous names - all using their fame to
encourage peace.

Organized crime GRAVITATES to central government. It usurps the
defence forces of great nations and turns them into the tools of
tyrannical conquest.

The disgusting gang finds something disgusting to accuse a
politician of. Then, when the victim is compromised into being a
puppet, the way is open for the theft of oil.

Here is a quote from the Evening Standard as to how the Tory Whips
keep the members of parliament on message. It comes from a Whip:

>>You look into their past. There is always something
>> It might be debt, or something sexual involving boys.
>> If you can help a chap out, he will do what you want forever.

Bill Clinton - you are DISGUSTING. Start a nuclear war, steal all the
oil for us, and we will help you out. We will stop mentioning the
Lewinsky Cigar.

THAT is the game.

They even rig elections.

But simple, honest folk protest. And many of those who found their way
to celebrity pay back the world with kindness.

Thank you again - rich and poor alike. WE DREAM THAT DREAM TOGETHER.

Charles Douglas Wehner


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PostPosted: 2003-07-02 19:33:23
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> Thank you again - rich and poor alike. WE DREAM THAT DREAM TOGETHER.
>
> Charles Douglas Wehner

Sounds a mindless dogma to me. Perhaps there is some truth in there
somewhere in and amongst the Chairman Mao style rhetoric.

Ho hum.

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PostPosted: 2003-07-03 11:01:31
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oilwar@postmaster.co.uk (Oil War - War for Oil in Iraq saudi arabia iran war for
oil war bush iraq war oil war war for oil war oil iraq saudi arabia iran war for
oil oil war bush oil war war for oil war oil) wrote in message
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> U.S. Admits: IRAQ WAS ABOUT OIL:
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,970331,00.html
>
> Iraq war was about oil:
> US deputy defence secretary Paul Wolfowitz
>
> George Wright
> Guardian Newspaper (UK),
> Wednesday June 4, 2003
>
> So they attacked Iraq to rob them of oil!
>
> Why does the argument continue when the US government has admitted the
> truth? It was always about oil and Israel, not WMD.
>
>
> They had even admitted the truth before!
>
> The Iraq attacks were plainly and simply a gigantic armed robbery.
> Bush, Blair and their corporate bosses must go to jail for their
> crimes!
>
> Afghanistan, Iraq... Next Syria, Iran and other oil countries could
> face attacks and robbery.
>
> http://www.thedebate.org/
>
>

There are INSECTS on this site who derail the debate. They bring in
specious arguments about left wing, right wing and so on.
Meaningless DRIVEL.

The argument goes on because some will never learn.

As a German I have met countless of my countrymen who said Hitler
deceived us. No. YOU WERE WILLING TO BE DECEIVED.

I had a Communist friend who stayed loyal to Stalin long after the
great Khruschov exposed him as a thug. Then, twenty years after
Stalins death, my friend conceded Stalin deceived us. NO. HE WAS
WILLING TO BE DECEIVED.

I was amused during the Gorbachov reforms that the papers were warning
of a RIGHT-WING Stalinist backlash. Now the left-wing tyrant had
become a right-wing tyrant. WINGS are just burble. Even journalists
cannot agree about wings. Wings are for FAIRIES.

The answer is OIL. That is the motive.

British Freemasons overthrew the elected Elchibey in Azerbaijan. They
installed the Masons Aliev and Husseinov - who cancelled all contracts
for OIL. Then they signed just one OIL contract. With BP.

Blair, the Masonic puppet, bombed Kosovo just to allow a PIPELINE to
run through Montenegro to Greece - to deliver the OIL.

Friend and foe alike were slaughtered in Kosovo. Bombing from FIVE
MILES UP, they could not tell one from the other. Nor did they care.
Their aim was not justice but chaos - an excuse to put the troops in.

When Sheikh Yamani raised the oil price in November 1973, British and
American Freemasons wanted to BOMB Saudi Arabia. But there was the
Soviet Union lurking in the background - so they were afraid to start
that war.

Instead, the built up the Saudi Freemasons Al Quaida under fake
Sheikh Osama Bin Laden, to create TOTAL HAVOC. Bin Laden would even
kill his own friends if commanded to do so. And he was. Nobody would
suspect a pious religious sheikh of killing his own friends. And the
Masons did not care who died, as long as there was chaos as an excuse
to send in the troops.

Saudi security was too strict, so Bin Laden and his gang were sent to
join the homosexual Freemason Omar (publicised as prayer-leader, or
Mullah) in Afghanistan. The Afghan Masons are the Taliban.

Afghanistan was strategic because of the OIL of the Aral Sea across
the border.

The Americans sent a fortune to Afghanistan to finance the terrorism
against the Russian-backed regime.

When Gorbachov unexpectedly withdrew, Mullah Omar promptly set up an
anti-women government. He controlled the police and law-courts, so Bin
Laden was able to SEIZE THE MONEY.

There were negotiations between Bin Laden and the CIA in Washington,
as the American Masons tried to get the money back. With anti-Taliban
demonstrations in the background, the negotiations collapsed.

That pot of gold was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for Bin Laden to
take revenge against the Masons who had used him as an impoverished
puppet. He was now rich - but the money would not last. American
Masons could plunder the taxes of the richest land on Earth.
Afghanistan is one of the poorest.

Bin Laden attacked US embassies with car-bombs, and tried explosives
in the basement of the World Trade Center.

Then came the 11th of September.

Do the INSECTS who support these wars imagine that Bin Laden would
have shed a tear if THEY had been in that building amongst the 3,500
or so victims?

Hitler was not loyal to Hitler supporters.
Stalin was not loyal to Stalin supporters.
Bin Laden is not loyal to Bin Laden supporters.
Bush is not loyal to Bush supporters.
Blair is not loyal to Blair supporters.

Saddam Hussein was Grand Master of the BRITISH-CONTROLLED Iraqi
Freemasons.

After the Private Madison affair - revealing how he and other innocent
loyal soldiers were killed by British Masons to test chemical weapons
- the British Masons needed a test-bed.

Halabja was chosen by the British as the place to try a FIELD-TEST of
all their various poisons. Saddam was commanded to arrange it. He did.

Then they fell out over Kuwait. The loyal puppet was now FREE.

The British now flooded the press with the Halabja story - to convince
the brainless INSECTS that Saddam ALONE was guilty, and that the
Masonic British government had a right to invade.

They even raised the con-man Jeffrey Archer to the House of Lords to
collect SYMPATHY MONEY for the Halabja Kurds. This went into his
ring-fenced account, to pay for more oil wars. The Kurds got NOTHING.

In the press, of course, Archer was a saintly man doing good work
for CHARITY. His scam was cynically called the SIMPLE TRUTH
campaign.

Archer did not only embezzle those funds for the Masons. He put some
into his own offshore account - not ring-fenced. Give me ALL the
money - not a penny less, not a penny more said the Grand Master.

Archer cheekily wrote a book by that name. Then came Masonic revenge -
and he is now in prison; not for his crimes, but for trying to
double-cross his fellow Masons.

America had been trying to gain control of Saddam. The World Health
Organisation had eliminated smallpox from this planet in 1979. By 1982
it was already a weapon that could be purchased openly from Britain or
America.

The British say that Donald Rumsfield sold smallpox with anthrax to
Saddam in 1982. However, it is likely that the smallpox came from
Britain.

The weapons grade anthrax used after september 11th was obviously an
American weapon that was sent back to America by its formerly Masonic
foes. But it had passed its sell-by date, and killed only a few
post-office workers.

Where do you stand on the St. Valentines Day Massacre? Who was right
- the killers or the victims? Take your pick - MAFIA or MAFIA.

Where do you stand in the Bin Laden dispute? Bush or Bin Laden? Thug
or thug?

Where do you stand in the Iraq affair? Saddam or Blair? Filth or
filth?

Before you decide which of them YOU love - remember that they dont
love YOU.



Charles Douglas Wehner


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PostPosted: 2003-07-03 18:44:13
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Charles Douglas Wehner wrote:
> There are INSECTS on this site who derail the debate. They bring in
> specious arguments about left wing, right wing and so on.
> Meaningless DRIVEL.

What site? this is Usenet. Ah, youre a Google user I see..

>
> As a German I have met countless of my countrymen who said Hitler
> deceived us. No. YOU WERE WILLING TO BE DECEIVED.

As an Englishman I suggest you fuck off back to the fatherland to
enlighten your countrymen.


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PostPosted: 2003-07-05 20:20:01
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As we laughed at the simple ideas expressed in hi1e2v9tgq5@4ax.com>, we realised vonroach was
serious and so replied thus:
>On 3 Jul 2003 11:01:31 -0700, charleswehner@hotmail.com (Charles Douglas
Wehner)
>wrote:
>
>>There are INSECTS on this site who derail the debate. They bring in
>>specious arguments about left wing, right wing and so on.
>>Meaningless DRIVEL.
>>
>>The argument goes on because some will never learn.
>>
>>As a German I have met countless of my countrymen who said Hitler
>>deceived us. No. YOU WERE WILLING TO BE DECEIVED.
>
>I tend to agree with you. The Germans were not deceived or as others claimed
>just following orders. And the new President of the AU was correct in his nazi
>characterization of one of the German ministers. As one goes through life one
>learns about various people, and I will borrow from Monty Python to describe
the
>Germans(with a few exceptions): `You Bastards, you dirty rotten bastards!.
>
>>I had a Communist friend who stayed loyal to Stalin long after the
>>great Khruschov exposed him as a thug. Then, twenty years after
>>Stalins death, my friend conceded Stalin deceived us. NO. HE WAS
>>WILLING TO BE DECEIVED.
>
>The `great Khrushchev? The son of a bitch that over saw the murder of millions
>of Ukrainians? What an odd adjective `great. Says something about the Germans
>as well. Marx and Lenin were the deceivers, but not intentionally - just
>blundering intellect. The Russian peasants were just waiting for someone to
lead
>a genocide against the Russian aristocracy. I doubt many had any belief in
>Lenins false promises. I suspect you have a lot of communist friends.
>
>World is always full of ignorant bums ready to join any mob and riot and rob
in
>the streets.

That is better thought out. Youre improving (slightly).

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PostPosted: 2003-07-06 11:18:23
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On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 20:20:01 +0100, Bill Jillians continued his antiAmerican
diatribe. Poor devil, hes overcome by his dismay at the disintegration of his
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